That is a very interesting perspective. I tried to find the theory on complexity order from my old engineering textbooks, but I can’t find it. I will have to dig into my sociology books next because they deal with a little more systems theory.
Edit: I just asked ChatGPT, yes I think I remember this theory from one of my sociology books, which are buried.
That AI "furthers the loss of value of the individual" is a minor compared to the real dangers I see in AI. Yes, I use AI well, and it's application in many fields are endless.. But its potential as a control tool for a new globalist power elite are also endless. We are in a new war for humanity, and AI is the field of battle.
Possibly, but any tool would be just as usable for someone with bad intent. I’m not sure what makes AI a unique devil; and really, an AI system would have to be connected to many other types of systems before it can be usable for any real level of control. Interfaces like that are where these things break down, so even if “they” wanted to utilize AI, I would bet it would be glitchy at best.
I guess I have a more conspiratorial frame of mind. Computer systems are used in banking, military, as well as monitoring systems used by government agencies, social media companies and mega-corporations. AI advances are at a level where they can be used to pull together a massive amount of information and use it to control our lives.
Understandable. I would suspect that using an AI to write code to do those things is where the real issue lies - the LLMs do not generate robust code, yet. Those people doing that would be non-State actors or maybe agents for the State. The State itself already compiles all this data without AI. AI would be overkill, in my opinion.
Where AI could get dangerous is when the State defers judgments to it, because it is not good at edge cases or extrapolation. This already has happened in relatively minor incidents, but concerning that nobody thought to question its usage (but not surprising, because the State is full of non-experts who are not obligated to consider opinions).
That’s true. I was assuming an LLM. Which AI type would be used to control more than the current algorithms? They don’t need NNs to locate people because our phones are pretty good at giving away our location. But maybe they do have a sentiment analysis scraper to narrow down on an individual threat. However, if they do, then they are pretty awful at using it, because they aren’t stopping many actual threats.
I think we would both agree that we don’t want any of the level of control, regardless of how it manifests.
That is a very interesting perspective. I tried to find the theory on complexity order from my old engineering textbooks, but I can’t find it. I will have to dig into my sociology books next because they deal with a little more systems theory.
Edit: I just asked ChatGPT, yes I think I remember this theory from one of my sociology books, which are buried.
Edit edit: I subscribed to your Substack, looking forward to it if you end up writing anything!
I still can’t find the reference I was thinking of. Why would the controller and controlled systems be of similar complexity magnitudes? For example, most controllers I use are an order of magnitude more complex than what they control. Similar in a software stack, although the complexity of each package might be debatable.
That is a very interesting perspective. I tried to find the theory on complexity order from my old engineering textbooks, but I can’t find it. I will have to dig into my sociology books next because they deal with a little more systems theory.
Edit: I just asked ChatGPT, yes I think I remember this theory from one of my sociology books, which are buried.
That AI "furthers the loss of value of the individual" is a minor compared to the real dangers I see in AI. Yes, I use AI well, and it's application in many fields are endless.. But its potential as a control tool for a new globalist power elite are also endless. We are in a new war for humanity, and AI is the field of battle.
Possibly, but any tool would be just as usable for someone with bad intent. I’m not sure what makes AI a unique devil; and really, an AI system would have to be connected to many other types of systems before it can be usable for any real level of control. Interfaces like that are where these things break down, so even if “they” wanted to utilize AI, I would bet it would be glitchy at best.
I guess I have a more conspiratorial frame of mind. Computer systems are used in banking, military, as well as monitoring systems used by government agencies, social media companies and mega-corporations. AI advances are at a level where they can be used to pull together a massive amount of information and use it to control our lives.
Understandable. I would suspect that using an AI to write code to do those things is where the real issue lies - the LLMs do not generate robust code, yet. Those people doing that would be non-State actors or maybe agents for the State. The State itself already compiles all this data without AI. AI would be overkill, in my opinion.
Where AI could get dangerous is when the State defers judgments to it, because it is not good at edge cases or extrapolation. This already has happened in relatively minor incidents, but concerning that nobody thought to question its usage (but not surprising, because the State is full of non-experts who are not obligated to consider opinions).
I think we are talking about different things. LLMs are just one popular application of AI.
That’s true. I was assuming an LLM. Which AI type would be used to control more than the current algorithms? They don’t need NNs to locate people because our phones are pretty good at giving away our location. But maybe they do have a sentiment analysis scraper to narrow down on an individual threat. However, if they do, then they are pretty awful at using it, because they aren’t stopping many actual threats.
I think we would both agree that we don’t want any of the level of control, regardless of how it manifests.
That is a very interesting perspective. I tried to find the theory on complexity order from my old engineering textbooks, but I can’t find it. I will have to dig into my sociology books next because they deal with a little more systems theory.
Edit: I just asked ChatGPT, yes I think I remember this theory from one of my sociology books, which are buried.
Edit edit: I subscribed to your Substack, looking forward to it if you end up writing anything!
I still can’t find the reference I was thinking of. Why would the controller and controlled systems be of similar complexity magnitudes? For example, most controllers I use are an order of magnitude more complex than what they control. Similar in a software stack, although the complexity of each package might be debatable.
So complexity itself is a bounded system?
How about a leaky bounded system?